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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me.  that&#039;s throwing me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me.  that&#8217;s throwing me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://reviewsarama.com/2008/08/07/wanted-2/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I wrote too much on this.  The short version of what&#039;s below is that I have read Ultimates and I think it is pretty good, but it might have been even stronger if Millar had a co-writer.

I read the first vol. of Ultimates as it came out in floppies (not recommended, BTW).  I&#039;ve also read most of the second volume, though not very carefully.  Despite my dislike of Millar, I have to admit it&#039;s a good comic.  It is sort of the perfect fit for Millar.  It&#039;s a mainstream book, so he can&#039;t go too far overboard, but it&#039;s outside of ordinary contintuity, so he can make his characters kind of broad and cynical.  I still think it would have been better if Millar had passed the basic storyline over to a writer who was a little more interested in dialogue and characterization, but Millar doesn&#039;t do too bad.  

  The art is fantastic.  With the exception of his Iron Man, I think Hitch&#039;s character designs ought to be adopted by the regular contintuity. The big screen stuff is phenomenal.  The pacing was annoying if you read it in the floppies, but I&#039;m betting that pretty much disappears when you read it collected.  

What did you take Millar&#039;s point to be?  It seems clear that he intends to be making one, but I couldn&#039;t get clear on what it was.   Maybe I just need to read the second part more carefully.   One option would be that it is intended as a critique of American arrogance, but I&#039;m not sure it works as that.  I may be trying too hard to read the politics as American left-wing or American right-wing.  You can point to various things in Ultimates as advocating both sides.  It may be that Millar&#039;s coming from someplace different politically, and that&#039;s throwing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wrote too much on this.  The short version of what&#8217;s below is that I have read Ultimates and I think it is pretty good, but it might have been even stronger if Millar had a co-writer.</p>
<p>I read the first vol. of Ultimates as it came out in floppies (not recommended, BTW).  I&#8217;ve also read most of the second volume, though not very carefully.  Despite my dislike of Millar, I have to admit it&#8217;s a good comic.  It is sort of the perfect fit for Millar.  It&#8217;s a mainstream book, so he can&#8217;t go too far overboard, but it&#8217;s outside of ordinary contintuity, so he can make his characters kind of broad and cynical.  I still think it would have been better if Millar had passed the basic storyline over to a writer who was a little more interested in dialogue and characterization, but Millar doesn&#8217;t do too bad.  </p>
<p>  The art is fantastic.  With the exception of his Iron Man, I think Hitch&#8217;s character designs ought to be adopted by the regular contintuity. The big screen stuff is phenomenal.  The pacing was annoying if you read it in the floppies, but I&#8217;m betting that pretty much disappears when you read it collected.  </p>
<p>What did you take Millar&#8217;s point to be?  It seems clear that he intends to be making one, but I couldn&#8217;t get clear on what it was.   Maybe I just need to read the second part more carefully.   One option would be that it is intended as a critique of American arrogance, but I&#8217;m not sure it works as that.  I may be trying too hard to read the politics as American left-wing or American right-wing.  You can point to various things in Ultimates as advocating both sides.  It may be that Millar&#8217;s coming from someplace different politically, and that&#8217;s throwing.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://reviewsarama.com/2008/08/07/wanted-2/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we agree on this,  I just enjoyed the other part of the story enough to balance the problems out. 

I have read Empire, and I did like it. But my expectations were higher and were not met. I thought it was a great concept and I liked both creators involved. The end result was not mind-blowing, but it was fun. 

What about The Ultimates? Did you read that? It might be my favorite Millar of the last few years. I thought it had some point to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we agree on this,  I just enjoyed the other part of the story enough to balance the problems out. </p>
<p>I have read Empire, and I did like it. But my expectations were higher and were not met. I thought it was a great concept and I liked both creators involved. The end result was not mind-blowing, but it was fun. </p>
<p>What about The Ultimates? Did you read that? It might be my favorite Millar of the last few years. I thought it had some point to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://reviewsarama.com/2008/08/07/wanted-2/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have much problem with stuff that&#039;s a little over the top, or even offensive, so long as it&#039;s that way for a reason.  I don&#039;t think Millar has much of one in Wanted.  It&#039;s not particularly funny and it certainly isn&#039;t making any kind of meaningful satirical point.  

I agree with you that the basic concept is sound and that the art is very good (although &quot;casting&quot; the main character as Eminem makes the book seem a little too much like a movie proposal).  That&#039;s pretty much my take on almost all Millar stuff, though.  He has good ideas and works with good artists, but falls down in the execution.

Have you read Mark Waid&#039;s Empire?  It you like the overall concept of Wanted you might like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have much problem with stuff that&#8217;s a little over the top, or even offensive, so long as it&#8217;s that way for a reason.  I don&#8217;t think Millar has much of one in Wanted.  It&#8217;s not particularly funny and it certainly isn&#8217;t making any kind of meaningful satirical point.  </p>
<p>I agree with you that the basic concept is sound and that the art is very good (although &#8220;casting&#8221; the main character as Eminem makes the book seem a little too much like a movie proposal).  That&#8217;s pretty much my take on almost all Millar stuff, though.  He has good ideas and works with good artists, but falls down in the execution.</p>
<p>Have you read Mark Waid&#8217;s Empire?  It you like the overall concept of Wanted you might like it.</p>
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